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Many Christians wonder how anyone could doubt the existence of God, but it turns out it's right in the bible.  If you read between the lines, it tells you there's no God…

1)  The bible claims that God sacrificed Jesus for our sins. (John 3:16, Romans 3:25, Ephesians 5:2, Hebrews 9:26)  (This is ignoring Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20, which state that everyone is to be responsible for their own transgressions without anyone else dying for their sins, thus undermining the primary basis of Christianity.)

2)  Since Jesus is God (2 Peter 1:1, John 10:30-33, and other verses), premise 1 means that God sacrificed himself.

3)  A sacrifice involves the destruction of the entire being, including the spirit.  This seems intuitively obvious especially for a self-sacrifice, since it's not much of a sacrifice if the martyr is guaranteed an eternity in heaven.  The bible never directly specifies what constitutes a "sacrifice," but it seems to support this intuition.

a)  In the entire bible, only humans are said to have been given immortal souls. (Ecclesiastes 3:11, 12:7, and other verses)

b)  The bible allows animal sacrifice (several passages in Leviticus 1), but it condemns human sacrifice in the same breath as witchcraft, sorcery, fortune telling, and other forms of magic.  (Deuteronomy 18:10-11)

c)  Of all the things the bible forbids, why lump human sacrifice together with magic?  It would require some type of occult power to sacrifice the additional element of the soul.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
(Matthew 10:28)

Therefore, the bible implicitly defines sacrifice as the destruction of the whole being, including the spirit.

4)  From the above premises, God must have died with no afterlife.

Therefore, according to the bible, God doesn't exist.

When you think about it, this explains so much.  Within the scope of the bible, it tells us why Jesus 2.0 fell somewhat short of godlike omniscience, actually having to ask why anyone would doubt that he's the same person who was just brutally murdered.  (Luke 24:38)  It explains why, aside from the occasional disembodied voice that only believers could hear for some reason, God never appeared or acted after the sacrifice.  In Acts of the Apostles 1-14, angels always acted in God's place.  Is it really more plausible that God still existed, but he was always busy?  He had a little too much on his plate, so he had to delegate?

It also explains some current observations, like the fact that Jesus has never returned as predicted.  It tells why God is credited with all those spectacular, unmistakable miracles in biblical times but has no noticeable effect today.  It even gives us an explanation for ghost sightings: there's nobody to admit them into heaven.

I wish I could say I figured it all out first, but I think Nietzsche beat me to it.  Still, at least I can do my part by spreading the good word.  In fact, since the bible is already famous for being revised and edited throughout history, I'll go ahead and add a new chapter to the bible.  Don't worry, it's only three verses:

:bulletred: There's probably no God. (Dawkins 1:1)
:bulletred: But if there is a higher power worth worshiping, he/she/it/they wouldn't want you to squander your life on fairy tales that don't even have happy endings. (Dawkins 1:2)
:bulletred: So stop reading this and enjoy your life. (Dawkins 1:3)
If Christians can get away with their creative interpretations of the bible, I can do this. Donít worry if my claims donít make sense to you Ė in a religion whose deity sacrifices himself to himself to appease himself, making sense isnít a high priority anyway.
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mjmendez72 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New member
Do you even know the context of the passages that you're pointing xD
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't worry, you can say anything, but without actual study (which is clearly lacking in your case) ... all you are is flapping lips. Therefore you are not very high priority for me either.
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Atlantean6 Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014
So you don't believe energy exists? 
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cake5313 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
For everyone who reads this and other articles like it:
You have a choice to make. You can be swayed by anything that is thrown your way, or you can go figure out both sides personally. I can't force anyone to believe that God does or doesn't exist, so the only thing I can do is show kindness to everyone I see and give them space to make their choice by themselves. Sitting here and arguing about it is pointless since you can't know for sure until your time is up.
I ask for all of you or at leat a few of you to show respect no matter who's side you're on. It would be most appreciated.
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Bolts6042 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014

Yowzas, this looks like a hot topic.  Honestly, though, this post seems a bit sad. 
Sacrifices destroying immortal souls? 
Man’s soul is immortal, but God’s isn’t? 
Has the subject of the trinity stopped being a subject that causes people’s heads to light on fire? 
And, most importantly of all, it completely demeans what Christ has done for us!  Christ wasn’t some
willy-nilly sacrifice; if He was, He would have never come back as “Jesus 2.0.” Jesus is smart, He knew
that we are incompatible with God, thus God can never have us around Him.  So we need a way to
magically change to be compatible with God and that’s what Jesus does for us, He doesn’t magically
change us into some “super Christian person,”  He makes us acceptable before God.

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LupusCor010 Featured By Owner May 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
God's not dead
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TheodorVahlen Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Too bad this is completely based from an outside view. It won't make sense if you try to interpret it. Its like talking about the color orange without believing it exist. Jesus Christ and God are like an egg. One whole, but separate in its own way. God is defined as "good" and "love". These have always existed. Just as God has.

Study before you attempt to slander. Cotton-picking verses will get you nowhere. Be a true free thinker. Seek truth. Ask questions, and don't boast what you don't understand or don't completely understand.
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Why do atheists only pay attention to Christianity and not other religions?
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mkmaster365 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014   Traditional Artist
Well if we openly criticize Muslims, well, everyone does so no one cares, anyone critisizing them is just generally agreed upon as holy fuck their religion is bad ( I dont think it is bad, I just think it can be misinterpreted very easily) if we speak out against Judaism we instantly are labeled racists and nazi's, most other religions such as Wicca just isn't really out there, and most importantly... when is the last time you have seen any peagan religion shoving their teachings down the throats of anyone they see? Which religions burned people alive, and put them on sharp edged pyramid chairs because they THOUGHT you didn't believe enough? Christianity is just one of those religions that are easy to find holes in, most of us can penatrate it with a soviet nail, and it's one of the only religions that isn't going to automatically get us in deep shit like mentioned up there. Religion has governed us for centuries, and held us back a few. Dark ages are the evidence. Christianity has been really hypocritical in its life so far, and it really stands out as it has intertwined itself into government. The american republican party demonstrates this perfectly. They fight everything with their religious views, stopping stem cell funding, protecting against abortion (but the secodn the kid is out fuck em they say). Religion really has killed more people than any other thought we know of, christianity is one of the few that stand out above most others.

While I am an athiest by definition, I look to things that can be tested, and recreated. We cannot test the existence of one being, nor can we recreate it. I personally don't criticize any religions unless whatever happened is from the direct cause of it, or if people are criticizing my own. I replied to this only because I didnt think the other comments were adequate to give any sort of sensible view, and I bid you a nice day ma'am.
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So if I understand what you're implying - atheists are chicken shit scared of attacking other religions because of "fear" and "racial labeling"?

See, I don't think this is the case a all. I just think that Christianity is attacked more on the net (and books) because the people doing the attacking are in predominantly Christian countries.

Secondly - While Christians (and note this is not Chrisitianity since a religion is inanimate and therefore cannot do anything) did do some seriously aweful things, there are numerous atheists who did very similar things (of course not in the name of atheism, but rather their non theistic ideals)

Thirdly - While some Christians are against certian things (like stem cell research), there are more that are not against it. You see people use propaganda to sway others to move them against a certain idea. Added to this, there are atheists that are also against things like stem cell research and abortion, these are not solely "Christian problems"

Christians are not all of the same mind. Like atheists, Christians are all individuals. Atheists differ by one factor ... and that is God ... other than that - pretty much the same. You get crazy atheists (like the New Atheist movement - a political movement that I equate to the crazy fundies) and crazy Christians
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Because they know more Christians is probably part of the reason, with the fact that many are rebelling against beliefs forced upon them by over-zealous parents and the fact that Christians are the safest of the large religions to tease.

They never seem to burn anything or behead anyone anymore.

Forgot:  Islam is a liberal/progressive warm spot and many atheists are liberal politically.
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GodDragonKing Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Probably because Christians are the most vocal in the 1st world.
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
The united states isn't the only 1st world country you know. Muslims are would have to be the most vocal through out Europe and Australia.
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GodDragonKing Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Okay then, I honestly didn't know how vocal what religions are in Europe.
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Well don't make assumptions then.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I think you're reaching here...

And Jesus isn't the deity.
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skin2279 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then why did he say (John 10:30) “I and my father are one”?
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Because he, like the Sufi, was eliminating the distinction between that which is God and that which is not God.

Pacifistic Sufis are slaughtered by the truckload by Muslims because traditional Islam divides the universe into that which is Allah and that which is not Allah. Sufis believe Allah is found everwhere.
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skin2279 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then why did he say (Matthew 19:17) that he was not God?
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
He said he wasn't God. Not that he wasn't of God.
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skin2279 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then why did he say (John 10:30) “I and my father are one”?
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
See above. You're trying to make a circular flowchart by being as literal as possible.

And frankly, we have enough problems with people taking their holy texts literally.
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skin2279 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So you’re supposed to take the Bible literally, but not so literally that you find contradictions?

That’s known as a “circular argument”.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
"I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic."
-Hitchiker's guide to the galaxy. :D 
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JaminHunterTaylor Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
The fool has said in his heart "Their is no God". 
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someonesecho Featured By Owner May 1, 2014
...i can't believe i'm doing this...but *there
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J-Bob Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
God looking down at the cross: "...Whoops"

*begins to disappear in a Back to the Future manner*
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cheyluvsu03 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is taken out of context. There are two parts of the Bible: the Old Testament and the New Testament. The Old Testament is books Genesis through Malachi, (Eziekiel and Deuteronomy are found in the old) then the New Testament begins with the book of Mathew.  Jesus did not appear in the Bible until the new Testament. John, Romans, Ephesians and Hebrews are found in the New Testament, the time of Jesus. When Jesus came into this world, it started a new covenant. The old covenant--in the Old Testament--is the time period where sacrifices of animals were the only way for God to forgive sins ONLY FOR THE JEWS anyone that wasn't a Jew was known as a Gentile, and they couldn't even give sacrifices (majority didn't believe in God anyway, they had their own gods). But when Jesus was born (found in the book of Luke, the New Testament) it started a NEW covenant where everyone, including the Gentiles could be forgiven of their sins.

This is because JESUS IS GOD'S SON. Now, in order to partially understand this--understanding as much without faith--Jesus is God's only Son, but is also God. This is where people get confused. Jesus is not God in the sense that God himself came to earth, but the fact that God and Jesus are One. Same with the Holy Spirit; this is the spirit of God that dwells in you once you confess your sins and are saved by His Grace (basically, it is how to communicate with God). 

So really, to put in "simpler terms": in the Old Testament, everyone except the Jews who gave sacrifices were Hellbound because of sin (keep in mind, God doesn't send people to hell, but nothing corrupt can enter heaven) Now in the New Testament, since Jesus is the Messiah and the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, we can all be forgiven. When Jesus was on the cross, he took ALL of our sins upon him, and when this happened, GOD had to depart from Jesus, because God is so Holy and cannot be where sin is. God is never too busy to help anyone or anything, but in order to understand this you have to accept God's gift; guessing won't get you anywhere.
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skin2279 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But Jesus said (John 8:58) “Before Abraham was, I am”.
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cake5313 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Thank you for this it makes a lot of sense. I could write a book about this whole thing but I really don't feel like arguing with anyone. I wouldn't things to get worse.
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AFarmaant Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
From your first paragraph: Jesus was born, and died a jew. A great many in jeruslaem at that time were jewish, and you are further denying the existence of god because you are pointing out that the bible was made after jesus' time.

From your second paragraph: Have you ever heard of the holy trinity? God = Jesus = Holy spirit.

From your third paragraph: You are once again forgetting the holy trinity, and also ignoring that Jesus rose again.

One last point: The old testament contains the creation story and the ten commandments. You can hardly call that out of context. 

 QED.

Look, I respect that you believe in god, but really, this is cold, hard logic, and many people tend to believe that quite a lot.
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cheyluvsu03 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand if you don't believe as well, but the Trinity is symbolic for "God is One" this doesn't mean he's exactly ONE person. It's hard to explain because it's something that is beyond human comprehension because no one else can be it. Jesus is God's Son, therefore He is perfect and the Bible says that Jesus states to someone: "when you see me, you see the father."

It is known as: God the Father
God the Son 
God the Holy Spirit. 

That's where the trinity comes in. It is not related in human terms so that's the best I CAN explain it to someone.
Please don't think I'm rude when I say this, but for people who don't believe in God or want to believe they sure do spend a lot of time trying to learn about Him and try their best to explain to others that it's wrong.

But anyway, have a good day :wave:
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AFarmaant Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah, I can respect that. ;D
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HappilyDayzed Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are God
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WingsofElysium Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Wow, I'm no scholar but I don't have to be to see that this was largely taken out of context. Sorry, seems your grasping at straws. The Theory of Evolution sounds more plausible than this rubbish. lol God Bless you, may God reveal himself to you in time so that you don't have to suffer such a sad perspective of life.
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AFarmaant Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Quoting myself: The old testament contains the creation story and the ten commandments. You can hardly call that out of context.

Why do all of you call atheism 'sad' - I personally feel fulfilled, preparing for the next generation to have a wonderful life instead of worrying about myself going to hell. 

Really, this is just insulting. Just because you may not understand evolution theory does not mean it is false.
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cheyluvsu03 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is taken out of context. If you notice, this whole thing talks about the old testament before Jesus was even born and everyone was held responsible for their sins. Starting with the book of Luke, when Jesus was born, we no longer had to live by the old covenant BECAUSE of Jesus. Too bad they can't see this. 
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
Do you even read the descriptions?

Do you even realize that atheism is not automatically depressing?
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013
Argument, if it can be called that, is non sequitur.  However, going through all the comments is a great way to preemptively block religitards, so you have my thanks. :dance:
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WrathFan99 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Student General Artist
This just in . Rush-And-Rule-It has officially proven through concise logical argumentation and solid Biblical interpretation that there is no God ! :)
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OnlineStoryteller Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer

Thoughtful, but not necessary.

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wolffang719 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
:iconnedflandersplz: "But God, i did everything the bible said, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff."
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magdalenacaracol Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013
*knew* you'd write this kind of stuff by the self-righteous, martyr-type comment you left on the Deviant Secret submission. look who's calling the kettle black, you self-righteous martyr. poor you, DeviantArtSecret is taking your slot away from you where you can show off how smart you are, woww, Dawkins fanboy, I feel so bad for you *boohoo*

one day, you'll grow up and get off the Internet and calling people "bully" because they get more attention than you lololol
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BatmanWithBunnyEars Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013   General Artist
You actually had to bypass a lot of more recent works that had nothing to do with religion to get to "this kind of stuff," which gives me the impression that you were determined to find fault in my art one way or another.  Are you the one who submitted that secret or something?  It's the only reason I can see that you'd be this butthurt.
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magdalenacaracol Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013
lol not that I owe you an explanation, but for the hell of it: I just ghosted over your "submissions" folder and that's the first one that popped up randomly. you call me butthurt? lol i just said you were whiny, that's the truth dude... whiny about not being on the front page and about proving "God" wrong, usually people who think themselves above God are whiny and arrogant. it's a free Internet, if you haven't noticed, so you take the heat and you can dish it too. it's not being butthurt, you can't take it seriously.
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Second-Thoughts Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013

You do realise that he says that God does not exist, right? So if he really thinks himself above God, he'd be pretty low down the ladder. I mean, one step above nothing is still just about nothing.

 

Also, have you ever heard about sarcasm?

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magdalenacaracol Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
Have you ever heard of bad philosophy? Here, I'll give you an example:

"I mean, one step above nothing is still just about nothing."

And, yup, I definitely know sarcasm, thanks for asking homie <3
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Second-Thoughts Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
Darling, that's not philosophy, that's logic.
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magdalenacaracol Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
Don't be ridiculous, idiot. You can't create logic around "nothing." You can't create *anything* out of nothing. Go back to high school. But, thanks, actually, your comment could only emphasize my teleological argument for God.
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AFarmaant Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
0 + 1 = 1. Ta-dah! I just created logic around nothing!
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